US-Tactical Gaming http://www.us-tactical.com We're Here To Game US-Tactical Gaming US-Tactical Gaming Evo RSS Parser 60 US-Tactical Gaming http://www.us-tactical.com/images/evo/minilogo.gif http://www.us-tactical.com 94 15 Nuke-Evolution Xtreme Powered Site en-us administrator@us-tactical.com 2010-09-07T08:25:04-05:00 hourly 1 2010-09-07T08:25:04-05:00 Problemes with the Clan ! http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=248#1431 For an appointed general, the quote below "is not" appropriate..... Period

DevilRey @ Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:24 am Wrote:
I'm the Swat 4 division commander,  and a very busy one at that so I don't necessarily have the time to be the only one to go sit in the servers to get people in them

As of Aug. 30th. 2010, MJGen-Devil Rey is no longer the Swat 4 Division Commander
due to no Swat4 Division.
MjGen-Devil Rey, it was also your job to recruit as well.
Meeting To Be Announced will be held concerning the Swat4 division and the Ranks of "All Current Generals".
]]> 1431@http://www.us-tactical.com Problemes with the Clan ! 2010-08-30T08:55:23-05:00 Happy Birthday GrimReaper http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249#1430 Happy Birthday GrimReaper.]]> 1430@http://www.us-tactical.com Happy Birthday GrimReaper 2010-08-24T21:22:31-05:00 What's your computer rig look like? http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=197#1417 krusher @ Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:05 pm Wrote:

Heres a peek into my pc building skills -

The one on the left - AMD Phenom Quad Core 2.1 - 4GB Ram -
700 Watt Power Supply - Cooler Master Cavalier Full Tower -
320GB Hard Drive.

The one  on the right  - AMD Phenom "AM3" Quad Core 3.2 - 4GB Ram -
780 Watt Power Supply - Thermaltake Armor Full Tower -
Nvidia 9800 1GB OC - 1TB Hard Drive..

Both running on a 32" Vizio HD Flat Screen 1080p Television / Monitor.
and all powered by a noob at the keyboard lol just messing]]> 1417@http://www.us-tactical.com What's your computer rig look like? 2010-08-15T00:42:04-05:00 Hmmm http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=246#1413 1413@http://www.us-tactical.com Hmmm 2010-08-13T09:11:56-05:00 UST Member Pictures http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=240#1403 nvm,,,]]> 1403@http://www.us-tactical.com UST Member Pictures 2010-08-05T09:46:55-05:00 Where is everyone? http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=241#1399 1399@http://www.us-tactical.com Where is everyone? 2010-08-05T00:53:13-05:00 About,Best guns in SWAT4 http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=209#1314 1.INTRODUCTION

This topic is about the weapons in SWAT4. While it may sound very simple, the choice of weapon is a real dilemma sometimes. Since the game doesn't have that many options (if we count lethal options only, than its only a few primary weapons to choose from) our options are really limited, but even so, it really does bring up certain questions about weapon choice in certain missions.

Since in the game our goal is to capture as many suspects alive, the sheer power of the weapon sometimes isn't the best option. Even when opting to use the lethal weapon, sometimes injuring the suspect will force him to comply, therefore making our goal of capturing him alive rather than killing him.

2.DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS

Every weapon has its defining characteristics. Those are:

  * Power

 * Handling

 * Recoil

 * Fire Modes

 * Noise

 * Rate of Fire


Power

The power of the weapon is the energy of each bullet. The more powerfull the weapon the more lethal its every bullet is. While it obviously is good for when it is necessary to kill uncompliant suspects, especially those hard to kill armored suspects, you do need to know that swat is a life saving organization whose goal is to save lives. The more power a weapon has, the bigger the score given

Handling

Handling is the ability to keep the weapon ready to fire accurately in normal operation conditions, wich means firing the gun while walking, running or operating in tight spaces. Handling score will be given according to all stated reasons

Recoil

Recoil is defined as a kick wich results because of firing the weapon and has the impact on immediate accuracy of weapon. The higher the recoil the bigger the accuracy loss and the more time it takes for swat officer to get the gun steady. Obviously, the lower the gun recoil the better the gun, so the lower the recoil the higher the score

Fire Modes

There are 3 fire modes in SWAT4. Single, Burst or Auto. All 3 have good and bad sides, and not all guns have all modes of fire. Fire Modes will not be included in gun index rating, since they are quite difficult to include in a fair enough way.

Noise
Noise is the amount of noise that gun produces when firing. Suppressed guns are in obvious advantage here

Rate of Fire

Rate is the amount of bullets a gun can fire in a given time. Usually measured in rounds per minute units.

Magazine Capacity

Magazine capacity is the amount of bullets the gun holds. The grade is the exact amount of bullets it holds in a magazine.

3.PRIMARY WEAPONS

Power#/Handling#/Recoil#/Fire Modes#/Noise#/Rate of Fire#/Magazine#

or in short forms:

P#/H#/R#/N#/ROE/M#

Finally all those grades will be put in a formula wich will hopefully give us a realistic weapon quality index. The formula will be explained later.

Gal SMG

  * Silencer
   * ROF
  * Recoil
   * Flashlight

Gal smg is a weapon not commonly used by SWAT forces, but still present ingame. It does not have a flashlight. Its biggest assets are the in-built silencer and high rate of fire, and biggest disadvantages are high recoil and the absence of flashlight. It has a semi and auto fire modes.

P3/H6/R3/N10/ROF8/M30

.45 SMG

.45 SMG, also known as UMP is a good weapon. Its main advantages are the its exceptional handling, and a very good .45 calibre, and its disadvantages are slow rate of fire, and smaller than average magazine of 25 bullets. The weapon itself does have a somewhat higher recoil but it is partially compensated by slower rate of fire, making the gun fairly accurate, even when in auto fire mode.

   * .45 Caliber
   * Handling
   * Rate of Fire
   * Magazine


P8/H10/R5/N6/ROF5/M25

9mm SMG, aka MP5 SMG

MP5 is a well known and commonly used SMG. Its main advantages are its very good handling and rate of fire, and its biggest disadvantage is the lack of auto fire mode, wich is being substituted by burst fire.

   * ROF
   * Handling

  * Lack of auto fire mode


P6/H8/R8/N7/ROF8/M30

9mmSD SMG
Almost identical to its non-suppressed version, the result of a built in silencer is reduced noise, but also reduced power of the weapon

   * ROF
   * Handling
   * Silencer
   * Lack of auto fire mode
   * Power

P3/H8/R8/N10/ROF8/M30

AK-47 Kalashnikov

The good old Kalashnikov isn't commonly used by SWAT. Its biggest advantages are the powerful, hard hitting rounds and its biggest disadvantages are high recoil and bad handling. The weapon also doesn't have a flashlight. It has both single and auto fire modes

  * Power

   * Recoil
   * Handling
   * Flashlight

P10/H4/R4/N1/ROF7/M30

Gb36c

Gb36c is the a very good assault rifle. It packs quite a punch with the .223 caliber rounds and provides very good accuracy. Unfortunately, it has a very high recoil and, compared to SMGs, not so good handling. It has 2 round burst fire, and auto fire modes.

  * Power
   * Accuracy
  * Recoil
   * Handling

P9/H5/R4/N2/ROF8/M30

Colt M4A1 Carabine

The Colt Carabine is in many of its characteristics similar to the Gb36c, apart from its increased accuracy and size, resulting in lower handling. The Colt carabine excels at longer ranges in single shot modes.

  * Power
   * Accuracy

  * Recoil
   * Handling

P9/H4/R4/N2/ROF8/M30

Nova Pumpgun

A typical shotgun, slow in rate of fire, useless at bigger ranges, but devastating in close range. Shotguns in general have a big shortcoming of being suspectible to injuring unwanted targets. It has a extremely high recoil wich is compensated by very slow rate of fire

   * Close range effectivness

  * Range
   * Rate of Fire

P8/H4/R6/N1/ROF1/M8

M4 Shotgun

Automated shotgun with bigger rate of fire, but increased recoil.

   * Close range effectivness    * Range
   * Recoil

P8/H2/R8/N1/ROF5/M4

3.SECONDARY WEAPONS

Colt M1911

A standard sidearm. It has a built in flashlight. Its biggest assets are exceptional handling (like most sidearms), and very good .45 ammo, and its biggest flaws are the high recoil and low magazine size of just 7 bullets.

  * Handling
   * .45 ammo

  * Magazine size
   * Recoil

P6/H7/R3/N3/ROF4/M7

Glock G17
Very similar to Colt1911, but with almost a double magazine but with somewhat weaker 9mm ammo, wich results in lower recoil

   * Handling
   * Magazine size
   * Recoil
  * Weak 9mm ammo


P4/H9/R4/N3/ROF4/M17

4.WEAPON INDEX

The weapon index grade will be calculated by following formula:

P/2+H*2+R+SQRT(N)+ROF/2+M/30=weapon index

The Power of the gun is divided by to halve its influence in weapon index. Reason is simple, as much as the gun power is welcome, too powerful weapon will result in you unable to disarm a suspect, and possibly civilians as collateral damage.
Handling is probably the most important property for a swat officer. An ability to fire the weapon as accurately as possible in both walking and running is essential when clearing rooms.
Recoil is also very important because sometimes more than one shot is needed. It is still not important as handling
Noise has only a marginal influence in SWAT actions, but a silencer is surely welcome. Sadly, it reduces the power of weapon
While higher rate of fire is welcome, it can backfire as the results can be higher recoil and lower handling.
Magazine size is very welcome but mostly not neccessary. Still it is divided by somewhat standard size of 30 to reduce its influence.

The gun indexes are as follows:

   * GAL - 22.4027
   * .45 UMP - 33.2321
   * 9mm SMG - 32.5375
   * 9mmSD SMG - 31.4027
   * AK47 - 21.0404
   * Gb36c - 23.1667
   * M4A1 - 21.1667
   * Nova - 19.3071
   * M4 - 18.5071
   * Colt1911 - 22.7914
   * G17 - 27.1247

This score makes the UMP the best in the game. Surely i cannot guarantee that that is true, mainly because i cannot guarantee the quality of the formula given. But i really do feel that the UMP is the best weapon in the game. Also, both 9mm and 9mm SD come closely behind making them a very good choice. I will not say that any weapons are bad, but according to this they really fall behind in quality.

5.ADDITIONAL

According to swatequipment.ini file i have constructed a new gun index. The values of ini file were taken accordingly:

MuzzleVelocity=20384 - The Muzzle velocity is the speed at wich the bullet leaves the barrel. The higher this value the more powerfull the weapon.(1)


FireAimErrorPenalty=5.0 - The amount wich tells how much does every fired bullet spoil the aim(2)

LargeAimErrorRecoveryRate=12.0 - AimError recovered per second until base AimError is achieved (3)

SmallAimErrorRecoveryRate=2.0 - Same as LargeAimErrorRecoveryRate (4)

AimErrorBreakingPoint=4.0 - A point of division of large/small aim error (5)

StandingAimError=2.75 - Value of aim error while an officer is standing up (6)

WalkingAimError=3.5 - Value of aim error while an officer is walking (7)

RunningAimError=11.0 - Value of aim error while an officer is running (8)

CrouchingAimError=2.25 - Value of aim error while an officer is crouched (9)

LookAimErrorPenaltyFactor=0.000125 - AimError penalty for one unit of mouse movement per second

RecoilMagnitude=1200 - The amount of backswing after firing a gun(10)

All those values were inserted in a excel file to calculate the gun index again. Since its rather complicated, if anyone got any questions or would like to know wich number was gotten from wich information, you are free to contact me as always. The gun index is as follows:

Gal SMG - 18.6396
.45 SMG - 19.0183
9mm SMG - 25.5026
9mmSD SMG 22.9072
AK47 - 4.9454
Gb36 -10.0943
Colt M4A1 - 12.6243
Nova - -1.4071
M4 - 0.5557
Colt1911 - 10.9022Glock - 25.1335

6.CONCLUSION

Finally i hope that this thread will encourage you as readers to give me as much feedback as possible. Any opinions, critics are more than welcome, and hopefully i will encourage some people to give this a thought.

I also added a poll to see how many people try to use lethal weapons in a non-lethal way, as i think the results will be very interesting]]> 1314@http://www.us-tactical.com About,Best guns in SWAT4 2010-07-03T20:58:14-05:00 Further demotion- GrimReaper http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=200#1285 Double demotion over ruled - Rank set at Captain with the agreement that "Disrespecting any member from
General down to a recruit in will no longer be acceptable" period... If you are in chat, on a gaming server, or in forums, understand this -
I will be watching you and you will be demoted to no less than Recruit and no higher than Sergeant if caught abusing your rank or
disrespecting any member - As of June 28th. 2010 - 14:00 hrs CST, you believe a member has been disrespecting you, please bring
it to my attention and have screenshots as proof.]]> 1285@http://www.us-tactical.com Further demotion- GrimReaper 2010-06-28T13:47:38-05:00 GrimReaper- Demotion http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=196#1263 Demotion has been set for Colonial GrimReaper back to his original rank of Captain before last promotion. (23:09 hrs - 16th. June 2010)

Reasons for Demotion
Abuse of Swat4 Server admin
Interfering with General's business
You are still under your probationary period and I (we) see it that you have broken your probation and do not deserve the rank of Colonial. DO NOT disappoint us again.
Thanks,
BGen- Devil Rey]]> 1263@http://www.us-tactical.com GrimReaper- Demotion 2010-06-26T20:22:22-05:00 Cz0rny http://www.us-tactical.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=185#1244 Thanks for that.]]> 1244@http://www.us-tactical.com Cz0rny 2010-06-25T14:23:32-05:00